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Registered: October 26, 2003
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Hi All,

I am so angry, not just a little bit angry hugely angry. Why a friend came to visit me and asked me what was happening in my life. I told him and I said how my Christian walk with the Lord was going and that I was happy with what the Lord was doing with us and that he is using us...I also asked him what is happening with him, Christian Wise

Was this person happy for us?
No
Did he encourage us?
No

He warned me not to listen to just any spirit as if the Lord didn't give me a gift of discerning him which is the fruit of the Holy Spirit. His said how do u know that it is not from Satan?

I said because of the fruit it bears and that it is always confirmed in scripture and comes in the most unexpected ways.

Then he tried to get me into a spiritual debate...I warned him not to debate me I was not well or up to it, I told him I have a short fuse at present and am really sensitive. He persisted...When he told me Jesus is the incarnation of the Arch Angel Michael, I felt so grieved angry...It unsettled me...It also is the second time I have been caught out because I have not read the entire bible from cover to cover and so now I am really inspired too.

I don't even go out and these debates come. They don't feel helpful, he was telling me about prophetic messages about the end times that can't possibly be checked in the bible yet he says they can and I asked him to show me and he wouldn't. All it felt like was someone pushing my head down, surpressing and oppressing me. Before this person came, I felt great on fire for the Lord, now it feels like he left something behind me, and now I am going to have to pray for him, because the burden is there....Lord go and sort this person out in Jesus' name, amen...

Last time he saw me we fought about the Holy Spirit and he didn't believe God was a spirit, even when I showed him passages. He denied the Holy Spirit. Now he believes it like he never doubted...

At least we can agree on God's church...

It seems like these Christian Men I know who are caught up into cult teachings, want to sharpen their swords on me...I wonder if I had a man around if they would be so interested into debating me? I would just like to share my faith and for them to share theirs without all these debates...I am fed up with the fighting...

Please can you Stand with me in agreement that these false teachers will be kept away from me at this time. Dylan knew it was false and got his bible out to do bible study with him. I knew this person wasn't insterested in doing study and he just twists the scriptures around and leaves confusion, I didn't want Dylan to experience that.

Also I ask that the Lord can tone down the angry insensed grieving I feel in side when I come across false teaching and get sucked into these debates....Also to remove the suppression and oppression, discouraged, unsettled feeling that has been left behind.. Wow I really need to open up the windows some stuff has been left behind and now I have a huge migraine. That I will read the bible from cover to cover. And for God to set my friends free from cults and false teachings etc...and to stop them from sharing these teachings and imparting them as truth...in Jesus' name....Amen

What gets me I don't even leave the house and they come and find me. I also ask at present while we are trying to heal and rest in the Lord, that we are hidden in Christ, that we will be protected from these false teachers who try to impart church doctrine and interpretation as biblical truth, it is horrible to experience...Just as I am passionate, this person was too..that people stop trying to sharpen their sword on us and that they ask the Lord to sharpen their own sword, in Jesus name, amen...

If anyone reads this and they believe Jesus is the arch angel Michael, I don't want to debate or know about it, unless u can show me bible evidence. We have enough difficulty without people trying to debate us especially in our home.

Also pray that I stop being so angry too and that I can even listen without taking anything on board, in Jesus' name, amen. I can listen to truth and I love it, I just can't stand lies and I can't listen to it.

love and blessings in the Lord,

Serenity


the winds of change, the whirlwinds of Him, Soveriegn LovingLiving Grace

The beauty of His fullness, perfection and completion, His Light Caringlively Sound


Glory, Honour, Power and Blessings in Lord Jesus Christ amen

Serenity Grace
Homeheart Ministeries,
His heart is in our home and our home is in His heart...John 14:20
it's all in his hands, heart, feet, mind and side and upon His back....or blood/ water,
love/fire, mercy-truth/earth, grace/glory-air, virtue/liberty,
(metal)=freedom=warm emersion and life under His covering...


Registered: November 19, 2002
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Serenity,

You are a Child of God! You have nothing to be ashamed of. The light in you is much bigger that the shadows that cover this man.- Pray for the ones that anger you. Believe me I have been through the same things you are going through. We have to continue trusting in the Lord. We pray for the ones that have deception verses truth!! I pray for God's Guidance when we are challanged with the Word and pray that no weapon will form against us. I know the Bilbe says to be merciful and do good even to your enemies. Follow God's Example-
Luke 6:27-36

Love for Enemies

27"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31Do to others as you would have them do to you.
32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' lend to 'sinners,' expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

Serenity,
You love the Lord so much and when your in full submission with him; darkness attacks even more. Put on the Full Armour Of God. Let God continue to mold you and shape you. I admire your hunger for the Lord. Just remember Greater is He in us than he is in the World.

I was led by the spirit to share this with you!

Hebrews 1


The Son Superior to Angels

1In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
5For to which of the angels did God ever say,
"You are my Son;
today I have become your Father[1] "[2] ? Or again,
"I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son"[3] ? 6And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
"Let all God's angels worship him."[4] 7In speaking of the angels he says,
"He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire."[5] 8But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."[6] 10He also says,
"In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end."[7] 13To which of the angels did God ever say,
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet"[8] ? 14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Heavenly father, May you quiet my sisters heart and continue to show her your mercy and grace. May you protect her and Dylan from all evil. May you give her all things that pertain to the truth. May your light radiate through her body even greater today for walking the path of your Word and promises.

May you bless Serenity & Dylan even more today!

[This message was edited by JOHN TREVINO on March 15, 2004 at 02:55 PM.]


22 Because of the LORD's great love we are not consumed,
for his compassions never fail.
23 They are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness. Lamentations 3:22-23

John Trevino
Registered: October 09, 2003
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Serenity
John had a great reply. Some people like to trip up a christian by drawing him into foolish arguments and have no sincerity about actually learning the truth of the bible. Don't think you are obligated to give him an argument. Just give your testimony and trust the Lord to give you wisdom about how to answer such a person.
Registered: October 26, 2003
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Hi Grace and Faith,

Thankyou so much for your response. I know I don't have to debate and yet I really don't want to and then I am drawn and I pulled out and said it is written that we are not to get into spiritual debates. He wanted to keep going and I just lost it. I thought this anger was my weakness however the Lord has revealed to me, it is not my anger, nor even my jealousy that comes out but his...."But I say, Did Israel not know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you" (Romans 10:19) Was also revealed the situation with the churches, we have many false Christian Churches in this area. My other friend is severely burdened...Thankyou for your prayer the other day...We found an awesome church today. I felt the presence of God in that building, no one but the Pastor and I were in there and mate those tingles, chills, just went off, we are going on the weekend, I feel really excited about it...and the Pastor also knows this person and church Dylan and I both love, that is 13 hours away and he loves them too. We are like mined and this church encourages people to share what they have etc...they also believe in freedom of the Holy Spirit and freedom in praise, worship and dance...Amen, this church dances for the Lord...Yaya and the pastor was interested in what I was saying about the water etc...I just want to get in there and do God's work, whatever that is....Isn't that great, thankyou so much...

Hi Brother John,

Awesome reply, that is exactly what I need and now it is in my mind the passage I need when I come up against it again. That is exactly what has been happening with us, Hebrews 1 and yes we will also remember Luke as well. However was also shown in Romans that when the Brethren walk disorderly we have to withdraw fellowship...I have really tried to do what I could, however nothing is left to do but it is now in the Lord's hands and I just can't be with any of my friends that are not following correct teaching.

We also have a problem in Australia called the tall poppy syndrome, if someone gets too high, people chop them down. A lot of talented people don't get to go out and share their talent, because people around them sabotage them, this country, nation has had a very low self esteem, has never really realised their full potential, until now, people are waking up to it more and more...This is what happens in all walks, including Christians...I opened up this church's magazine and this is what Pastor Miels says about it..."But we can think if I pull down that tall poppy I'll feel better and I will be accepted because he is out of the way. If you are rejected and you kill the one who is accepted, it doesn't mean that you will be accepted. So we've destroyed the Kingdom of God because of our problem and not their problem". This is what has happened in every part of my life, and it kept me from sharing my talents, kept me from reaching my potential, I underachieved so others wouldn't feel uncomfortable around me and they still felt uncomfortable, jealous and at different times hostile. Well no more will I put up with sabotage I am not playing Abel to anymore Cains...and also Zephaniah 3 6:20 he gave to me tonight for someone else as well, who also suffers from the tall poppy experience, because she has so much she could share if this church let her...however there may be hope of another church for her...and my friend also reminded me these are not my battles, there the Lord's...

Have a great day in the Lord, I love that you both responded and John I will keep reading your reply it is awesome, Grace and Faith I will also keep remembering not to get dragged into debates...if I can help it, I love that your both really care and that you are so beautiful in the Lord, Oh and this Church said we are welcome to come....Amen...to that....

Love and blessings in the Lord,

Serenity


the winds of change, the whirlwinds of Him, Soveriegn LovingLiving Grace

The beauty of His fullness, perfection and completion, His Light Caringlively Sound


Glory, Honour, Power and Blessings in Lord Jesus Christ amen

Serenity Grace
Homeheart Ministeries,
His heart is in our home and our home is in His heart...John 14:20
it's all in his hands, heart, feet, mind and side and upon His back....or blood/ water,
love/fire, mercy-truth/earth, grace/glory-air, virtue/liberty,
(metal)=freedom=warm emersion and life under His covering...


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