We are studing Revelations in Bible study and what got brought up was that after Satan is locked up for 1,000 years he will be released to roam the earth again. Now I started to ask why. Why would God release him and why do we care? Well either no one understood what I was trying to get at or something because the question never did get answered. This is what I am wondering and please someone tell me what they think about the ideas......

1.If God is going to release Satan again and perhaps the people that were not saved while they had the chance, yet did not take the sign of the beast or die, are left to furnish the earth again. That would explain why he is being released, right?

2. If that is all true. Is it possible that this has happened before and we are all created from the ones that were left behind last time around. I mean there are alot of things about the Bible that scientist have had a problem with for years and if we are repeating what has already happened then maybe that is where the dinasours came from. Perhaps they were one of the many beast that roamed on the earth during the last revelations. Does anyone think that this is possible or am I really looking crazy here?

I am going to do some research on it yet and am not willing to let the idea go until I have done that, but your imput would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thank you much
akjak24

I believe Dinosaurs were created with the rest of the beasts just before man; & I don't believe in carbon dating because I heard of the same thing (like the shroud of turan) getting carbon dated 3x & each time comming back with a different date.

Your question about satan being released is a good one - but my answer involves what is called extra-Jesus-ing because we are adding to the bible some speculations. My theory goes something like during the time of the 1000 year millenial reign we all will have our new bodies & won't have a chance of going with the devil when he gets released - so who will the devil convince to die with him during the 2nd battle of armegeddon? Most likely they will be Children born to us during the 1000 reign they will not have seen reality where there was suffering & so they won't understand about death & the reasons to not go with the devil when he comes back because we (mankind) arent the greatest of teachers.

You asked why would God release him - same reason he was released unto us - so that we would be forced to choose between God & the devil.

You asked why do we care - well if I am correct the very immortal souls of our children are on the line - seems like a good enough reason for me to care.

You seemed to think it may be possible that some unsaved people survived the revelation into the 1000 year millenial reign but no there will be no unsaved people when the 1000 years start; but I already stated that it may be possible that we will have new children that are new souls (not reincarnated dead people) that will be able to deny God when the devil is released.

Hi SLade,

I like your ideas! I was not so much meaning that we should not care, but if he was released and all that were on earth were the ones that had already chosen God THEN why would we care. Your thoughts that we might have children was one that I had never even thought of and yes I would certainly care about my children's soul.

I also do not agree with carbon datingnad think that it is way out there! I mean come on how many times does it have to be proven wrong before people believe.

So so you think that the world will be like it is now after God "locks up" Satan on;y without sin? I mean are we going to have jobs and live in homes? I had always thought that after it was all doen we would spend the rest of our days in heaven with the Father.

Now my preacher says that he believes that all the dead will be taken up before the living are. That when you die you lay there and your next thought is when God is calling you up to be his "bride". Is that how ou see it as well? I know that this is off from the subject that I had started with, but you seem to be very smart and I just thought that I would pick at your brain for a minute.

Thank you for gettign back to me I do really appreciate it.

Oh an one more question for you...

How do you tell the younger generation how interesting the bible is? I have a friend who's son has started to go to church with us and I would like to get him into reading the bible and think that he would find it very intersting if he did. Any suggestions there?

Thank you again

Akjak24

There is a passage in Zech 14 that looks like it must be fulfilled during the millenial reign:
"16And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

So that sounds like we will have homes because the feast of tabernacles is when we live in a tent for a week or so to commemorate the Jews leaving egypt with Moses to look for the promised land.

I agree with your pastor because he agrees with the scripture that says I Thess 4 "16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

There is a scripture that says "The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence." (1156 Ps 17) & so it sounds likely that "when you die you lay there and your next thought is when God is calling you up to be his "bride"." I am unsure exactly how it works if you die first then let me know lol.

As far as preaching to kids in a way to catch their attention & peak their interest - the best way for me is twofold - first of all I have to know what the bible says so I can repeat it using some modern jargon where the audience will see that the bible is talking to them where the rubber meets the road so to speak & also we gotta live our life without hypocracy as much as possible because what kids want is something real, like a role model that they can believe in - they are just like us, they don't have time for a phony & they don't want to hear about Jesus from someone who Jesus isn't real in their own life.

Well first of all, if you die first let me know!!LOL!!!

I do agree that that a role model is a great way to do that. This child has taken to my BF so maybe that is what the Lord would like him to do and not me.

Do you ever feel like a part timer? I was really thinking about stuff today and I am beginning to think that I am a part timer. I have a full time job that I work part time at, I am a part time mother, part time wife/girlfriend, a part time christian. It really has me looking at my life and what I have to do to change that. Now you don't know me, but this is not the way that I am. I always go head on and full into everything that I do. Atleast I did before I excepted Jesus.(like when I drank, I drank alot, when I di drugs I did alot,you get the idea) Which has me thinking that perhaps I only partly excepted him. Is that even possible? Do you have anything scriptures that I can read that might hepl me out in this situation?

Thank you for all of your answers so far. I really enjoy talking with you. It is very noticable that the Lord is with you always. I thought that I had that and now I am not so sure, but I do want it!!!!

Thanks again

Akjak24

We are all part time everythings - we have to wear many hats during our life - student, teacher, youth, mentor, child, parent, employee, employer - you name it not to mention the relationships like wife, husband or lover girlfriend, boyfriend or suchlike - but a true christian will never be a part time christian - I personally cant stand 2x a year christians (Christmans & Easter) or foxhole christians (Whenever the going gets rough) but God loves them so I must as well - my point is that when God gets ahold of you then your relationship with him is supposed to be active 24/7. It is similar to your relationship with your earthly parents - are you their child 2 hours a week, & the rest of the time you disavow their values that they raised you with? Or are you their child 24 hours a day & make them proud by behaving yourself in a manner that they taught you is honorable?

I mentioned before a scripture in Deut 6 "4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates."

If you look at verse 8 it says that the word of God is to be frontlets before your eyes - like wearing "God colored glasses" so to speak - everthing that you see & do you judge by what God tells you (through the scriptures) about it - you dont judge the scriupture by what your experience has taught you or anything as foolish as that.

You asked if partly accepting Him is possible - technically yes - it is best described in this post:

http://gdwmboard.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7806062801/m/55410167021

What I am saying is people want to accept Jesus as savior but not as Lord. But such a false salvation will not be valid in His eyes you'll wind up being one of the ones that He tells "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" Mt 7:23

There is a scripture about Jesus that I take to mean to be about myself as well - "For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak." Isa 59:17 - Just pray that the clad with zeal as a cloak part is fulfilled in your life as well.

Hebrews chapter 10 warns us to not be "fence sitters" or half-hearted in the christian lifestyle - "38Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.".

I just pray for you that you commune with the father "By a new and living way" (Heb 10:20) & I bind any influence of the enemy trying to confuse you that you are not in the constant presence of the Lord. Eph 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Heb 4:16 "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

Remember Gal 2:20 "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." & Rom 12 "1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

The bible also teaches us that we are not to be half hearted at work: Tit 2 "9Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10Not purloining, but showing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things." 1 Tim 6:1 "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed." Col 3 "22Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God: 23And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; 24Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. 25But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons." Eph 6 "5Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; 6Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; 7With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: 8Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free."

You asked me to give you some scriptures but I suggest that you get on your knees with your bible & read it for yourself because the storys in there will come much more to life for you if you read it for yourself & God tells you the story before a preacher does - yes preachers can uncover some hidden manna in the story but we gotta get the milk & the meat out of the word, not either or. "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: " 1 Pet 2:2

As far as your question do I ever feel like a part timer - yes every time I sin & dissapoint my father I do...

WOW!!!

All of what you said was very powerful. I am sorry that I made you type that much. I guess the reason that I feel like a part timer can easily enough be figured out. I am switching jobs so there for can not take on new clients until I switch, My oldest daughter just started school and so I don't see her very often, my boyfriend and I have not had the greatest couple of weeks because he has not had work and we need the money which is causing stress, And as far as a christian I have soem explaining to do there.

I know the Lord and know that he is Lord and I willing except that. I have never thought that there was a different God or anything like that. But instead the closer that I have gotten to him the more that he has revealed himself to me and in odd ways. Now I have begun to think that I am crazy and that everyone else also believes that I am crazy, but this is what I mean.

I knew the night that my daughter was conceived( and no it was not planned)
I knew where my pastor was to look for an abstract that I have not seen. In fact I have never even been in his home, but I knew.
I knew what to say to my boss when telling her that I was going to quit and as I said it I knew that the demons stopped her from hearing it.
I knew that the town that I lived in was going to have a tornado scare the night before it happened.

I could go on, but those are some of the things that have happened within the last few months. And before you ask no I do not believe in pysics or any of that other crap. I honestly know in my heart that God has told me these things before or while they happened. Now I am not sure why. But the reason that I feel like a part timer is because it doesn't happen all the time. I want to hear him like Joshua did and Moses did. I want to hear him every morning when I wake and every night before bed and all the time inbetween. But I don't. I hear him every once in a while. It is not that I don't pray and it's not that I don't just talk to him and it's not that I don't listen or read my bible. But when you experience something so great and you see it and then poof its gone, you may begin to wonder, why? And it makes you feel almost like your not good enough anymore or in my case like my part time work is done.

So now that I sound like a complete nut job, atleast you know why I have said some of what I said. Life here on earth is very hard and I remind myself everyday that it won't be like this forever, because he is coming back!!! And boy does that give me a smile!

Now I will do what you said and CONTINUE to read my bible, because I really enjoy it and because maybe you are right and I am sinning and not reading enough. And I was never looking for an easy answer or anything like that, more on what your thoughts were on it. And I thank you for them.

I don't think that you sound like a nutjob - it sounds as if you have been blessed with a word of knoledge now you said you want that gift working 24/7 & without it you feel part time - well God only wants your relationship with him to be ok 24/7 & (as a result) any gift you need will be avialiable at any time you need it. But remember He operates with his own provedence & your mission doesn't always involve your gift. Remember that gifts of the spirit are normally given to edify the believers & to help non-believers convert; not just so christans can win the lottery or something like that - also if the glory for the appropriate timing & use of the gift doesnt go to God then He may get mad about that...

A while back I was on a whole new level with God - I was having hour long conversations with Him as if I were talking to you - but it got to be too heavy for me & so I asked God if He could tone it down a bit & He being the gentleman He is did just that...

I can never say that you aren't good enough & neither can you because it is a moot point - we all aren't good enough - nobody can earn their seat in heaven. The point is that you are good enough for God to have died for you & good enough for God to set you with Himself in the heavenlies. If you feel like God's hand isn't as strong with you as it was last week don't worry, have no fear - the same God that split the sea for Moses is the same one that goes out to battle for you - He is able to do above & beyond what we ask or think if we let him.

I was not trying to accuse you of sinning - I just interpet the words "Part-Time Christian" as an insult, akin to being called a cult member. The scripture tells me in Heb chapter 6 "1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3And this will we do, if God permit. 4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." - I didn't understand you were talking about your feelings of loss of a gift - maybe it will come back but like I said the gifts are just icing on the cake the real deal is the relationship you have with God. I keep wanting to say that our feelings arent as important as the facts when it comes to our relationship with God - it doesnt matter if we feel like God loves us or not; the fact is God loves us!!!

Well Slade thank you for understanding what I am tryig to say. It is very hard for me to tell people what has happened to me. More I think that people are going to think that I am crazy than pleople actually thinking it.

I wish that you would have asked what I meant before thinking that I was not tryng to be a Christian. It does not feel very good to have someone(even if not meaning to) judge you. I try very hard to not judge others and when I first read what you had wrote yesterday I was very hurt and upset. Before knowing anything about me or even ask to know more you jumped right in teling me what it seems that I am doing wrong. But after thinking and praying about it I think that you were not meaning to be hurting and that you just don't like the thought that some people are only Christians on Sunday persay.

And as far as your last statement, I find that hard to understand. People are going to be people and that will never change until God comes back. To say that people should not go with their feelings is really not even possible. God knows who we are and I have not talked to a person yet whether they are a new Christain or an old ones that has not at one time or anouther thought that God was ignoring them or some other feeling. That is human nature and that is how we are made. If we did not have feelings than we would not beable to love other than by words and God does not want that love any way he wants true love that we feel. Not just words that we say. There is always going to be feelings that stand before fact, but isn't that what faith is? I mean the only fact that we really have is the bible and the feelings, gifts and words that God shares with us. But yet here we are believing and telling others to believe as well. We are putting our feelings before fact to alot of unbelievers. We need to keep that in mind so that we can still witness to them. Would you not agree?

akjak24

I was just repeating a docrrine that I was taught by a tract (that I got permission to reprint on my bible website here : http://www.geocities.com/walkinlovelivebyfaith/Gospel.html ) called the 4 spiritual laws - just that if our christian life were a train faith & fact are up front but feelings are the kaboose or the most non-important part of the equation - I agree with the tract - I was taught that feelings are a tool & we can train ourselves to change them on command - so when someone tries to push my buttons to get me upset I choose to laugh in response. Because our feelings can flip-flop with our circumnstances & most people dont train themselves to have positive reactions to negative circumstances is why I preach to not pay as much attention to your feelings as to the facts. The fact that God loves us & died for us won't change no matter how many times our feelings change. You can go with your feelings all you want but I tell you something that I learned in my life; love is a choice - I choose to love God regardless wether I feel like it or not. It is the same with another person; if I choose to love my wife I won't cheat on her even if I feel like sharing my body with another person. If I choose to go with my feelings I will leave my wife & cause myself a stack of problems that I don't want (I know this from experience), so for me feelings can be fun but they can be dangerous if they are in control of my train - I need to keep feelings in the kaboose & have my train being run by the facts & my faith. When I preach I don't tell anyone any of my feelings if I don't have to because I believe that the fact that God is real is just that - a fact; not a feeling - same with every other truth that I repeat from the bible - they are facts not feelings & it is the factual word of God that people need to hear if they want to have the Holy Spirit work in their life & lead them to salvation. I am scared of people judging things by their feelings like I said we are supposed to judge everything by what the scripture has to say.

It was not my intention to judge you at all - I thought I was judgeing myself when I said "As far as your question do I ever feel like a part timer - yes every time I sin & dissapoint my father I do..." & I told you why I said it because to me a part time christian is no better than a heathen. As far as the rest of that post it was almost all scripture with very little of my own interpretations (I thought) I was just answering what I saw & was concerned about in your post. You said that because you didn't have some extra gusto in your christian experiencee you were wondering if maybe you only partly accepted Jesus - that is an impossibility if you want to be sure of your salvation so I tried to be as direct as possible in response with scriptures that I hoped would encorage you to draw closer to God; yes the ones about working hard sound like a scolding if you don't do it but my intention was not to judge you or put you down in any way - my job is to lift you up but sometimes I fail like the scripture says in many things we offend all. So let me stop justifying myself & apologize already lol.

Well first off I understand what you are saying about feelings. They are an emotion like rage and should beable to be kept in check. But this is the first that I had ever heard of anything like what you are saying and I am sure that there are more out there like me. And, isn't that concidered to be unhealthy? I mean when you start to bottle up your feelings isn't that bad. But you really are not bottling them, just putting them on the back burner, so never mind that question. I understand what you are saying, though I am not sure how well I will be at practicing them. (You know being a girl and having feelings go hand in hand, or so my boyfriend believes!LOL) Now along with that, there are alot of times when God tells me something through feelings. If something is not right and I get this eerie feeling then I begin to pray. So where does that come into play for you? Or maybe I am the only one that gets that, I don't know. I guess what I am trying to say(and not doing so well at it LOL) is that alot of humans live off of feelings. Not all and not just feelings, but there is alot of them out there. Do you ever read a prayer that is written in here and begin to cry because it touches your heart? Or do you think about Jesus laying on the cross and dying for our sins and cry? 'cause I do and I would not change that feeling for anything.

Now about the wife thing and not going with that feeling, you really are. Your not falling for lust, but you are going with your feelings. You love your wife and that is a fact, but it is also a feeling. I bet that you would not want to see her hurt or angry. So there you are avoiding the feelings, by following yours. Love will always be a feeling that you have as a human. If it was just a fact, then it would be alot easier to love everyone the way that Jesus does. But the Fact is that it may be easy to say that you do, but to actually feel it in your heart when walking down the street is alot differnt.

And I know that you really did not know that you came across as judging me. Like I said I was angry at first and that is normal, but after I prayed I knew that it was nothing to really worry about. Which is good, 'cause I almost stopped visiting this site. But like I said the Lord told me not to be foolish or as my BF says "being a girl" and let it go. SO on that subject, we are okay.
Oh and I am sorry if I upset you at all. I would really like to become friends. I live in a small town and most are non-believers. It is nice to have some people that I can talk to that can help me on my path.

akjak24