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<Dana>
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I want to know what the bible says about relationships that fail and how to move on even if you feel you cant. I want to know what the bible says about breaking comitments. I also want to know what the bible says about finacial duties of a man to his children if anything at all.
 
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Well Dana! and how are you all are doing on this blessed day/ocassion? , I just since in my spirit that something went hay/wild, and you are in need of comfort according to the scriptures you have outlined, well you have indeed come to the right place on this board, because I feel and personally have experienced some of the best encourangements of directions,

but thats all in your patience of endeaurance, because of your getting the proper answers, thats if you are willing to accept the truth in becoming free indeed from the situation.

Dana what had happened for you to ask these issues, if I may ask? .

from your brother in Christ:

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Love you all always,

Walter Preston, Jr. and Deborah, Wa.

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<Jorge S>
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Dear Dana,
You've got all my solidarity in whatever you're going through. I'm messing myself up in search for answers to your question. In general, we know that men should not destroy what God has created. We know that marriage is a God's creation, therefore it submits to all commands on love and forgiveness. But, what can we do when we fall beyond any hope of reunion? What can we do when our partners just don't listen? What can we do when God himself warned us that something bad was going to happen and we couldn't prevent it through passionate and hopeful prayer? How to reconcile the call for peace and forgiveness with the most terrible and paralysing impotence to act in any direction?
Cheers, Jorge S.
 
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Hello Dana,

First of all, thank you for seeking the advice from Godly persons who choose to reply to your question. I believe I speak for many on this message board by saying that you are safe here. We do not know you personally, nor do we know your identity. As such, it greatly helps us if you provide sufficient details of the situation to allow the best feed back to your question.

Since your question deals with "relationships that fail" and "children", I assume that the situation deals with a failing marriage where children are concerned. My response assumes this to be the case.

As a foundational source of information on the committment in marriage, the following article provides a good basis for Biblical information on committment in marriage. I agree with the content in the article and simply pass it on to you as a good Biblically based reference.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-f004.html


Regarding your question on support of children, please look with me at the following scriptures:

1. Genesis 3:19

"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."

From the fall of man, God has ordained men to work in the support of his family. His work is to be a hard task, as evidenced by the mention of the "sweat of thy face". There is no mention of divorce creating a revocable responsibility of this ordination.


2. Ephesians 6:4

"And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord."

Perhaps the most important responsibility of the father to his children is to lead them to Christ, nurturing their growth in the Lord, and providing the discipline they need for spiritual and personal growth. This cannot be done unless their physical and financial needs are not met by him as well.

3. 1 Timothy 5:8

"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

Dana, God's Word is very specific in its admonishment and instruction of the father,s responsibility to his wife and children.

I hope this information is helpful for you.

Nick P.
 
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Very good word Nick! A father is ALWAYS a father and must always uphold the responsibility of a father.

Dana - There is much wisdom in this post and in the link Nick has provided. I pray it helps. Keep your heart open to what God is trying to teach you through this difficult time.
 
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<Jorge S>
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Dear Dana,

I hope you found come comfort in the last few days. You aren't much explicit in your post and I feel I understand why. At times we feel so overwhelmed by the circumstances we're going through that we'd rather choose to remain silent until we are able to make something meaningful out of it.

The situation refers to a divorce where children are involved and need to be taken care of.
For all I know at the moment, there's no place in God for anything like 'broken relationships.'
He created marriage with Adam and Eve, and it was as willful of His act as He also created everything else before they came to existence (Gen 2:18-25.) Marriage is a covenant relationship(Mal 2:14) meant to suit us only during our terrestrial life (Matthew 22:30.) as it has purposes of companionship (Gen 2:18), procreation (Gen 1:18) as well as rightful expression of passion and avoidance of sin (1Cor 7:1-16.)
Although certain allowances were made to break a marital commitment in the Mosaic Law, Jesus Himself denied any reason for divorce other than immorality (Mark 10:5-9, Matthew 19:8-9.)
Interestingly enough, Jehovah's especial relationship with His chosen people of Israel was very often referred to as a marriage all throughout the Old Testament. And Jesus' relationship to His Church adhered to the same concept.
Israel always failed God and we keep on failing Jesus, yet the entire Bible can be seen as an account of -and a call towards- reconciliation. God Father and Jesus, His Only Begotten Son, have always made -and keep on making!- the first step towards restoration of the relationship.
Jehovah undoubtedly declared in Malachi 2:16 '...I hate divorce...'
The disciples turned their back on Jesus at the time of His trial. The same 'children of the bridechamber' who feasted with Him, 'the Bridegroom,' earlier during His Ministry (Luke 5:34-35)left Him all by Himself when events turned sour. Even the faithful Simon Peter fled (John 18:25) But the angels were able to tell Mary Magdalene, Mary and Salome on His behalf after His resurrection: 'But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.' (Mark 16:7)
I don't know if it's too late for your relationship to work at this stage but there's always hope and courage where there is faith. Satan is a master at creating confusion, division, war and frustration within relationships. But the Higher Power of God Almighty cannot be disturbed by his tricks nor by our own misconceptions or frustrations.

Here is my prayer:

Dear Lord,
I embrace the cause of our sister Dana and stand by her side at the time of her tribulation. I pray that You assist her to make the right decision. I pray that You lead her into a path of Your choosing. I pray that all persons involved in her situation are open to Your message of love and forgiveness.
We are never too late to miss an appointment with You. We are never too deaf to ignore Your Calling. We are never too sinful, dirty, dumb or dead to outplay Your awesome power to forgive, cleanse, teach and revive.
Let Your sacrifice at the cross shine in our lives. Let the Holy Spirit inspire us for greater things in Your Name. Amen.
 
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<Ardith>
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I do not know your situation, Dana, but if you were married to an unbeliever and he chose to leave, there is no condemnation in divorce (1 Corinthians 7:15). Furthermore, Jesus' said that God allowed divorce "because of the hardness of [our] hearts." Mark 10:4-12. I also believe it is not our Lord's nature to bind a woman (or a man) in an abusive relationship. If any of these situations relate to you, I pray you do not feel in any way condemned for the failure of your relationship.

You asked what the Bible says about how to move on even if you feel you can't. I find an example in the story of Ruth (her husband died and she moved to a strange land and started a new life in a different culture, and God blessed her). There is also the story of Abigail whom King David married when God struck her husband dead for defying the King. Because Abigail had tried to make intercession for her harsh and evil husband, the god Lord blessed her after her husband died. 1 Samuel 25.

True, these women were not divorced, but widowed, still, the result is the same; they had to go on. Each of them was more blessed after the loss of their husbands! You can be too!

If your relationship was one outside of marriage and you have stepped outside of God's desire in this way, or if you married him in defiance of God's will, or before you wholly devoted your life to Jesus Christ, it could be the relationship was doomed from the start. Be willing to repent for any wrong you feel you may have committed and ask our precious Lord Jesus to forgive you and be your Lord from now on. Believe that He died for all of our sins, and through Him and only Him (Acts 4:10-12),we have salvation by grace and friendship with God, our loving Heavenly Father.

Psalm 51:17 reads "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, a broken and contrite heart -- these O God You will not despise." (New King James). You sound broken-hearted. God will comfort you if you allow Him to. The Holy Spirit is our comforter (John 14:26). He will also gently guide you day by day. No one knows all the answer, but as Christians, we know Jesus IS our answer.

I find John 13 - 17 very comforting and healing in times of grief. Let God speak to you through His Word.I pray that His presence is felt at this difficult time in your life.

God Bless.
 
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