posted May 08, 2004 11:37 AM

Lesson 1. Holi/days vs. Holy/days, but why is it like this now! in our daily life?/

Well hello all! , And how are you all doing? , but this question had been on my mind for some time, so! I've decided to noise it abroad with this ministry on this board, inwhich the question was brought up before, and is in the old and new king James Holy Bible as to exactly their lives were upon this earth, but why would not GOD be the same to those who are living their lives in todays life? Example: Ex. 20:8, Lev. 23: all verses, Zech. 14:16-19-20, 21-. , Lk.4:16, Matt. 26:2. , or you just might want to know the truth about the whole matter in John 14:15, nevertheless what do you think is that difference in Holi/days and that of the Holy/days and have you experienced such living as they did, then, now? , because they were a very rich and wise nation. Please Reply after observations:

Holidays vs. Holy Days » What is the difference?

The Difference in Holidays and Holy Days is that: "Holi"days are from the Roman/Julian/Gregorian Calendar, Example: of the Gregorian Calendar Jan. through Dec. (12 months), and "Holy" Days are from: Jewish/Hebrew/Bibical Calendar: From Tishiri through Adar (12 months) also, but for more information on these two calendars, and to help knowing "what is the difference in the two" is to determine how did they was come about! for their origins (start/begin), and in order to answer such a question I would have to "know" those factors, Now! here are those days with their Calendars:

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<P> Can a person see the difference? , Please! reply a.s.a.p. After praying about how to answer such a serious question of: Holidays vs. Holy Days » What is the difference? , Well! since we have come into this kind of knowledge about the "Days of the week and its cycles, which have created new "Life Styles" for My wife and I of how to Live a God-fearing life unto our Saviour, Example: 1-21-04 Wednesday of The Julian Calendar but 4th. day of the week of the Hebrew Calendar and the 28th. day of Tebeth/Tevet 5763 of "spring to spring/barley harvest recognizing": you might want to know why do I even be bothered with these dates, Well! as a matter of fact, I wanted to know for myself the truth of the days of the week, and according to their names, and how those days was formed to be the Julian/Roman/Gregorian Calendar, so that I may have to know even about its functions since I was so! living in it and thinking nothing of it for about 18-19-years ago, thats if you are familiar with the this calendar that I'am speaking of, Example: "Wednesday" have a certain name of the Gregorian Calendar but of the Hebrew Calendar it is not Wednesday but the 4th. day of the week and the 28th. day of the month Tebeth/Tevet 5763 would be the year of recognizing "spring to spring" or 5764 for "fall to fall" recognizing: or do you need to learn because you might not know or does it really matter which day? , just make the best out your life that you can, but please! reply:

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<P> II Tim. 2:15 only with "his" Hebrew/Biblical Calendar, also you can still sign your checks, by the Gregorian or celebrate your birthday, but Please! I Beseech you therefore, to take this yoke upon yourself and learn of "him" our "Lord and Precious Saviour Jesus Christ" and I will guarantee you, that you will never be the same, because you will know more of him, So! to me and others, which will agree, why say amen to a "LIE":? to have a STRONG DELUSION, or to live in a "LIE": II Thes. 2:1-(11)-17-"Comfort your hearts," "and stablish you in every good word and work".
Walter and Deborah, La.

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posted on 1/14/2004 at 07:19 PM Lk. 1:75: Holiness and Righteousness "all the days of our Life before "him"/"Our Creator" I truly believe that a person is going to do what they want to on any of the days according to the:

Gregorian/Roman/Julian "holi"day and still try to persuade others to do likewise, such as when I was in those kinds situations of whatever it was with that traditional day of ceremonies:
, Mark 7:1-5-13-23 Jesus explains what defiles,

I Corinthians 3:11-“17”-23.

So! I also believe that Gods Word will set a person free, "only if we/that person! let it"

but the word of the Lord that had come unto Ezekiel 7:1:1, -2-the prophet and said, An end is come upon the four corners of the land. 3-Now! is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense all thine abominations. having our own way with those "pagan gods"; but with the Hebrew Calendar; thats if that person will let GOD's Word abide in them,

to make that person free indeed, but to continue in that truth and with the "Hebrew Calendar" is his or her decision. Please !Reply 1-21-04 Wednesday of The Julian Calendar but 4th. day of the week of the Hebrew Calendar and the 28th. day of Tebeth/Tevet 5763 of "spring to spring/barley harvest recognizing":

We are thanking GOD and His precious Son, which is Our Lord Jesus Christ, first! of all in our life for everything! on this blessed day of Wednesday, 6-16-04, of The Gregorian/Roman/Julian Calendar, the 27th. day of Sivan, 5764 of The Hebrew/Biblical/Jewish Calendar; Genesis 1:5- The evening and the morning were the next Day! , but how are you all doing? on this blessed day of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth of course!

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Now! , here is the begining of: Lesson 2. , :

Breaking up our fallow ground: Jeremiah 4:3, Hosea 10:12, because everyone soon or later will reap whatsoever they have sowed, wheather it be good or bad/sparingly or bountifully. And because as one might say! , of the truth and is no lie! , I Samuel 15:10-13-17-21-“22”, 23, Mark 7:all verses./having breakes/having pleasures, II Corinthians 7:1. , and as we go on to perfection, but not! as one might say! , with his! Plan of Salvation without breaking the chain/link.

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Walter,
Your message kind of confused me...exactly what was the question?
the difference between holidays and holy days is simple. Holidays are basically pagan inspired, rather narcissistic, and are only celebrated today thanks to that "lovely" (NOT) christian leader Constantine who declared Sunday to be the day of worship (for Sol Invictus - not for Yashua) and who got the nicean council to alter all religious dates and feasts to "agree" with the pagan ones. even the days of the week and the months were given names on the gregorian calendar for the pagan gods (sunday - sol's day - sol invictus's day, monday - moon day - maia, tuesday - tiwesdag - tiwe's day, wednesday - wodin's day,
thursday - torsdag - thor's day, friday - freyedag - freye's day, and saturday - saturn's day
the scriptures give them only numerical names except for the one most important day of the week. (first day, second day, third day, forth day, fifth day, sixth day, and Shabbat - sabbath) also, the days began at sundown and ended the following sundown "YHVH called the light day and the darkness He called night. So the evening and the morning were the first day".

Holy days on the other hand are the feasts of YHVH aka "YHVH's appointed time's"(which, by the way, Yashua His son also kept)as described in Leviticus chapter 23 and consist of: 1. Shabbat (Sabbath), 2. Pesach (Passover) 3. Hag HaMatzot (Unleavened Bread) 4. Shavuot (First Fruits) 5. Rosh HaShanah (Trumpets) 6. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement and 7. Sukkot (Tabernacles or Booths). Those are the days that YHVH appointed, and He required men in the holy land to appear before Him (in the temple)for Hag HaMatzot, Shavuot and Sukkot. The other "jewish" holidays, Purim and Chanukka are NOT required by YHVH altho there is nothing wrong with celebrating them (we know Yashua celebrated Chanukka, for example).
Did that answer your question?
Kat

I don't think he asked a question I think he was preaching that it is good to learn the hebew calendar.

Well hello you all! and how are you doing? , on this blessed day of our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth of course! ,

Now to: Kat, and Slade, that you both have beautiful insights of true revelations on this issue of salvation with our Lord plan inwhich he/Jesus has set himself for us to follow,

eventhough everyone have not come to gripes/want to do as our Lord has with his Sabbaths in Luke 4:16/has his custom was/and on the correct day/and he also did not break the scripture with the feast days/Holy Convocations in Lev. 23:1-"4"/Matthew 26:1-"2".

But we as baptised believers/disciples/christians are supposed to be learners in following his/Jesus Christ steps I Pet. 2:21.

But also we "CAN NOT" Work out someone else soul salvation, on these issues on no day, but to take his yoke upon ourselfs and really learn of him, inwhich we think the "yoke/duty/inwardly" that he is talking about is: Deut. 4:9 , because if we really love, and obey his voice we would: Ecclesiastes 12:13, 14, John 14:15-31.

Holidays vs. Holy Days » What is the difference?

The Difference in Holidays and Holy Days is that: "Holi"days are from the Roman/Julian/Gregorian Calendar, Example: of the Gregorian Calendar Jan. through Dec. (12 months), and "Holy" Days are from: Jewish/Hebrew/Bibical Calendar: From Tishiri through Adar (12 months) also, but for more information on these two calendars, and to help knowing "what is the difference in the two" is to determine how did they was come about! for their origins (start/begin), and in order to answer such a question I would have to "know" those factors, Now! here are those days with their Calendars:

http://firstthing1sttab2002.freeservers.com/custom.html

Can a person see the difference? , Please! reply a.s.a.p. After praying about how to answer such a serious question of: Holidays vs. Holy Days » What is the difference? , Well! since we have come into this kind of knowledge about the "Days of the week and its cycles, which have created new "Life Styles" for My wife and I of how to Live a Godfearing life unto our Saviour, Example: 1-21-04 Wednesday of The Julian Calendar but 4th. day of the week of the Hebrew Calendar and the 28th. day of Tebeth/Tevet 5763 of "spring to spring/barley harvest recognizing": you might want to know why do I even be bothered with these dates, Well! as a matter of fact, I wanted to know for myself the truth of the days of the week, and according to their names, and how those days was formed to be the Julian/Roman/Gregorian Calendar, so that I may have to know even about its functions since I was so! living in it and thinking nothing of it for about 18-19-years ago, thats if you are familiar with the this calendar that I'am speaking of, Example: "Wednesday" have a certain name of the Gregorian Calendar but of the Hebrew Calendar it is not Wednesday but the 4th. day of the week and the 28th. day of the month Tebeth/Tevet 5763 would be the year of recognizing "spring to spring" or 5764 for "fall to fall" recognizing: or do you need to learn because you might not know or does it really matter which day? , just make the best out your life that you can, but please! reply:

http://elderwalterprestonjr.com/custom2.html

II Tim. 2:15 only with "his" Hebrew/Biblical Calendar, also you can still sign your checks, by the Gregorian or celebrate your birthday, but Please! I Beseech you therefore, to take this yoke upon yourself and learn of "him" our "Lord and Precious Saviour Jesus Christ" and I will guarantee you, that you will never be the same, because you will know more of him, So! to me and others, which will agree, why say amen to a "LIE":? to have a STRONG DELUSION, or to live in a "LIE": II Thes. 2:1-(11)-17-"Comfort your hearts," "and stablish you in every good word and work".
Walter and Deborah, La. Mr. Roberson, and I did change that post before this last one, since you said what you did, so please Re: (a.s.a.p.) posted this after 12/31/2003 at 04:05 PM



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Walter Preston, Jr.

Lk. 1:75: Holiness and Righteousness "all the days of our Life before "him"/"Our Creator"

I truly believe that a person is going to do what they want to on any Gregorian/Roman/Julian "holi"day and still try to persuade others to do likewise, So! I also believe that Gods Word will set a person free, "only if we let it" but the word of the Lord that had come unto Ezekiel 7:1:1, -2-the prophet and said, An end is come upon the four corners of the land. 3-Now! is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense all thine abominations. having our own way with those "pagan gods"; but with the Hebrew Calendar; thats if that person will let GOD's Word abide in them, to make that person free indeed, but to continue in that truth and with the "Hebrew Calendar" is his or her decision. Please !Reply 1-21-04 Wednesday of The Julian Calendar but 4th. day of the week of the Hebrew Calendar and the 28th. day of Tebeth/Tevet 5763 of "spring to spring/barley harvest recognizing":



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Walter Preston, Jr.

Ummm let me see, I can understand if lets say the united states government decided to make a festival on july 4th for example to commemorate the day that we signed the declaration of independence & started the war that had the result in separating the united states from britian that they would not want to call it a holy day, because the idea for the festival didn't come from God. My question is who came up with the word holiday in the 1st place & was it an attempt of the devil to get us to think that man made festivals are as important as God made ones?

As far as personally learning the Hebrew calendar God didn't put that on my heart per se - he did say study to shew myself approved, but most of what I study is for the purpose of helping people in their everyday lives, so because almost nobody (that I know) thinks in terms like Walter (both calendars) I don't feel a need to learn the whole thing, besides if I buy a roman calendar it will have the day of passover marked in it wich is the only Holy day that I celebrate along with ressurection sunday (& sometimes pentacost).

But in my own life I have been lead to observe the sabbath from friday sunset to saturday sunset & to call sunday the 1st day of the week & teach people that sunday is ok to worship God, along with every other day, but the sabbath is saturday. There is a passage in where Paul was having a bible study on the 1st day of the week (the same one where he raised that boy from the dead; Acts 20:7-11) I take that as a precident that it is ok to go to church on a sunday. I heard that the jews had a custom, not to walk more than 3/4 a mile on the sabbath. So if you lived more than 3/8 of a mile away from church you couldnt go on the sabbath because you would have to walk more than 3/4 a mile to get back home again. So I believe thats why they had bible studies on the 1st day of the week, because there probably wasn't a churchouse on every corner like there is now when "the way" was starting out.

Walter, please do me a favor & look at the thread I started called "hebrew calendar/year of Jesus return" I would appreciate your help.

Walter, Jr.

posted August 30, 2004 07:18 AM
Hi Slade! sorry that I just couldn't reply to your email privately this morining, for someone between 6:30 am and 7:10 am that was montoring while I was just about to end, that the post was stopped/cut off/lost! , but you can email us again if you will. love always, your brother and sister in Christ:

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Walter Preston,Jr

Hi Slade! again, and just how are you all doing on this blessed day? , Now that I've decided to let you all know that:

Thats if any is interested in following: Fall to Fall/ Tishiri to Tishiri, The Jews recognize the start of man's (Adam) creation. /Tishiri 1 the 6th. day of creation. Gen. 1:24-31.

Spring to Spring/Abib to Abib The Jews consider this to be the sacred calendar. Depending on the ripening of the barley determines when Abib starts, this is the head of the year according to Exodus 12:1., 2. ,

also that these are some related scriptures that would apply to these issues: Isaiah 66:23, Lev. 23:4, Zech. 14:11-18-21, Luke 4:16, Acts 17:2, Matthew 26:2, Acts 28:23.

Slade,
I'm thrilled to see that you worship on the 7th day and realise that while it's ok to worship on sunday, the 7th day IS the Sabbath! The whole "sunday worship" thing started with Constantine declaring Sunday as the day of worship for Sol Invictus (the invincable SUN - NOT Son) and the Catholic's deciding that they had the right to change the Sabbath to any day that was "convenient" to them.

Regarding Acts 20:7 - The disciples met to share a meal and visit with Shaul before he left later on the 1st day. They met saturday evening AFTER the shabbat had ended and after eating Shaul talked until midnight but they all stayed together till daybreak (sunday morning by our reconning) and then departed - Shaul went somewhere on foot but met the others at Assos, boarding a ship with them that took them to Mitylene and then on from there...
nothing is mentioned of worshipping or studying scripture at that meeting on the 1st day - just sharing a meal (fellowshipping) and visiting. That they were "worshipping" is something the church dreamt up to excuse worshipping on sunday INSTEAD of erev shabbat (friday evening) and Shabbat(saturday day)because they didn't understand that 1st day BEGAN on saturday evening.

Regarding the 4th of July - it's NOT a HOLY DAY but "holiday" is probably appropriate even tho the word IS a corruption of "holy day" just as "goodbye" is a corruption of "god be with ye". I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the 4th, or with our celebrating it, as long as we NEVER call it "a feast to YHVH". The Jews celebrate Purim (from the book of Esther) and Chanukka (based on the book of Maccabbees which is in the appocrapha but not in the canon) which Yashua also celebrated, but they were basically feasts of thanks (rather like our 4th of july and thanksgiving) rather than feasts dedicated to YHVH (as are His feasts - the Holy Days). This doesn't mean we can't give YHVH thanks on those days, just not "dedicate" them to YHVH (which is part of what got aaron in so much trouble in the desert).
Shalom,
Kat

If I am lucky I worship God every day of my life, not just on the sabbath & sunday.

Kat, you said "nothing is mentioned of worshipping or studying scripture at that meeting on the 1st day - just sharing a meal (fellowshipping) and visiting." I don't agree, because if you read the passage again it says that he preached to them - so if that was not a "church service" then it was at least a bible study.

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